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icon Vedrica Forest Gardens
community, 2010-

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The Vision of Vedrica is to achieve a sustainable harmony between Man and Nature. It becomes more and more important to make this a reality on a wider scale. All over the world, people are turning to this mode of life - sensible, independent, and nurturing. We see it our duty to leave the planet to our children and grandchildren in a pristine and livable condition. This vision was inspired by the Ringing Cedars of Russia Series that we strongly encourage everyone - especially those considering joining us - to read.
More on our site http://www.Vedrica.org

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DO NOT INVEST HERE
by shari weitzenkamp , founding member
2011/08/24
Absolutely, DO NOT INVEST HERE. My experience as a founding member with this group was very bad. Whi ... [long comment]

Russian Machine guns needed for gardening.
by shari weitzenkamp , founding ex-member
2011/08/25
You've got to wonder about a group of supposed peaceful gardeners that need a huge arsenal of Russia ... [long comment]

Use your own brain
by Leo Russ , founding member
2011/11/10
A life-changing experience like moving to a remote land with strangers is something that should not ... [long comment]

Weapons
by Gene Doudney
2012/06/06
Why so many weapons, must be alot of dear hunters in FL

What the deal
by Gene Doudney
2012/06/06
My husband and I are naturalist (Nudist) and yet you allow polyamory/ Open relationships, Polfidelit ... [long comment]

Weapons
by Leo Russ , founding member
2013/05/20
It seams to be a major concern for many so it needs some clarification.
First, we are in Idaho ... [long comment]

Naturalism
by Leo Russ , founding member
2013/05/20
Gene,
I am not sure where the idea that we "do not allow" nudism came from. We do not feel tha ... [long comment]

Investment
by Leo Russ , founding member
2013/05/20
We realize that most people interested in community living don't have resources to equally participa ... [long comment]

record: vedrica [edit]

location
florida, southeast usa, north america.

setting
legal structure: LLC, working on a non-profit status
surroundings: wild area or nature reserve (Private land and BLM-owned land)
land ownership: owned by a group of insiders (Purchased/financed by the members/LLC)
building ownership: No permanent structures yet
neighbors: neighbors are friendly (One neighbor does not live on the land, two others are friendly, and the third one is BLM)

population
total number of people: 5 (Three families)
ideal or planned maximum number of people: 30 (10-12 families)
children (0-10): 1 (1-year old boy born on the land)
adults (20-60): 4
females: 2 (Single mother + a half of of a married couple)
males: 2 (Single + a half of of a married couple)

housing
number of buildings: 3 (No permanents structures yet - all are mobile homes)
number of housing units: 3 (No permanents structures yet - all are mobile homes)
house sharing: seperate building for each unit or family (Each family owns a separate unit located on their respective domains)
roommates: Each family owns a separate unit located on their respective domains

sharing
income sharing: none - all money is private
communal meals: When two or more families choose
communal food: no communal food (No rules or obligations - food may be shared)
tools and machinery: most tools and machines are shared (Most tools and machines belong to the community, privately-owned items are shared when needed)
motor vehicles: vehicles are private property (When needed, are shared)
bicycles: bicycles are private property (When needed, are shared)

ethnicity
ethnic diversity: proportional to general population (Open to all)
latino / hispanic: present (One female (single mother) is Hispanic)
white / caucasian: present (Non-intentional)

spirituality
spiritual diversity: Spiritual/religious inclinations are considered a private affair
meditation: some people meditate regularly
agnostic: acceptable though no current presence
anthroposophic: major theme / encouraged
atheist: acceptable though no current presence
bahai: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
buddhist: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
roman catholic: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
christian: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
eastern: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
emissaries: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
hindu: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
humanist: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
hutterian brethren: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
jewish: acceptable though no current presence (Ethnically - present)
mennonite: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
moravian: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
mormon: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
muslim: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
native american: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
orthodoxy (greek, russian, etc.): acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
paganism / earth religions: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
quaker: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
scientology: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
seventh day adventist: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
sufi: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
transcendental meditation: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
unification church: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
unitarian universalist: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
taoist: acceptable though no current presence (Just lake any faith)
eclectic (integrates pieces from many religions): some people practice this faith
ecumenical (includes "all religions"): some people practice this faith

government
common political theme: no official theme
selecting leaders or centrals: no leaders by principle (All management is conducted by the entire group)
decision making: done by consensus (100% vote is required for most decisions)
rules: Maximum freedom limited only by no harm to others and the Land rule

activism
party politics: Personal matter
protests and demonstrations: prohibited (No political actions are allowed since they tend to disturb piece and ultimately are useless)
non-violent direct action: prohibited (No political actions are allowed since they tend to disturb piece)
cyber-activism: Private business not related to the community

sustainability
self-grown food: 2% (The community is new, intend to grow 50% or more)
organic food (grown+purchased): 70% (At this time, mostly purchased)
energy from renewable sources: 95% (Solar)
car-free: Vehicles are used/allowed when really needed
building material which is salvaged: 70% (Currently, use boards from an old barn on the land for most building needs)
waste which ends up being recycled: 70%
sewage which is treated ecologically: 100%

income and money
income generated within: At this time, there is no locally generated income but have business plan
personal expenses: no money is allocated for personal expenses
savings: turned over - part of it will be returned upon leaving

agriculture / garden
crops or produce: At this time, limited to personal domains
fruit trees: Planted on personal domains, wild fruit trees are present on the land
permaculture methods: At this time, there is no community garden, every member chooses their own method
veganic (vegan-organic methods): At this time, there is no community garden, every member chooses their own method
biodynamic methods: At this time, there is no community garden, every member chooses their own method
fukuoka (natural farming methods): At this time, there is no community garden, every member chooses their own method

diet preferences
common diet: different diets are accommodated and welcome
raw vegan (plant based diet): 3
whole foods: No food restrictions - personal business
coffee and caffeine: limited use (No food restrictions - personal business)
sugar: no restrictions (No food restrictions - personal business)

love and sexuality
polyamory / open relationships: Personal matter
polyfidelity (group marriage): Personal matter
bisexuality: Personal matter
homesexuality (male): Personal matter
lesbianism: Personal matter
heterosexuality: Personal matter
monogamy: Personal matter

parenting / children
attachment parenting: Personal matter
co-parenting: Personal matter
home education: open - a personal choice
breastfeeding: Personal matter
home birth: Personal matter
cloth diapering: Personal matter but is discouraged
corporal punishment: will not be tolerated
childhood vaccines: discouraged but parents can choose

seeking people
seeking people: yes 25 (See vedrica.org for details)
people with children: welcome
people with disabilities: welcome
elderly people: welcome
single parents: welcome
need capital to join: yes (To pay off the land mortgage, see vedrica.org for details)

drugs / stimulants
marijuana: Not on the land to avoid trouble with the law enforcement. Otherwise - personal matter.
psychedelics: Not on the land to avoid trouble with the law enforcement. Otherwise - personal matter.
tobacco / nicotin: Discouraged, can be used if others are not bothered
liquor: Personal matter - can be used if others are not bothered
wine: Personal matter - can be used if others are not bothered
beer and cider: Personal matter - can be used if others are not bothered

dress / tidiness
nudity: Only limited if others are offended or uncomfortable
tidiness: reasonably tidy
cleanliness: reasonably clean

visitors
visitors without intention to join: welcome (With prior arrangements)
paying visitors: welcome (With prior arrangements)
working visitors: welcome (There is always plenty to do on the land, prior arrangements should be made)
wwoofers: Don't know what that means...
prearrangements: contact a week or more in advance

languages
english, russian.

partaking users
lruss, founding member

last updated 2011/06/20
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